Comments on: Hometown Democracy - The Political Consultant Relief Act of 2010 http://blog.ozeanmedia.com/2010/05/hometown-democracy-the-political-consultant-relief-act-of-2010/ News about advertising, social media, interactive media, and communication strategies from an Advertising Agency located Florida Tue, 07 Feb 2012 17:25:42 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.5 By: Jill http://blog.ozeanmedia.com/2010/05/hometown-democracy-the-political-consultant-relief-act-of-2010/#comment-541 Jill Tue, 01 Jun 2010 12:25:38 +0000 http://blog.ozeanmedia.com/?p=293#comment-541 So, let me get this straight. It's OK for land use attorneys and land use consultants like Glatting Jackson to make money off of the comprehesive plan process but not political consultants? I thought you all were worried about job loss. For years our local governments have had the threat of Burt Harris lawsuits dangled over their heads the minute they they even try and talk about whether or not a proposed land use change is necessary. Under Amendment 4, voters will decide whether or not they agree that the land use decisions approved by their local officials are in their community's best interest -whether they are willing to pay for those changes through increased property taxes and more strain on existing services. This is just another scare tactic being thrown out to try and divert the attention away from the real issue which is why the current power structure is so afraid to let people have the final say on how their communities grow. It's just another threat, like the bogus Burt Harris clamims and is intended to intimidate people into voting against an amendment that will empower them. So, let me get this straight. It’s OK for land use attorneys and land use consultants like Glatting Jackson to make money off of the comprehesive plan process but not political consultants?
I thought you all were worried about job loss.
For years our local governments have had the threat of Burt Harris lawsuits dangled over their heads the minute they they even try and talk about whether or not a proposed land use change is necessary.
Under Amendment 4, voters will decide whether or not they agree that the land use decisions approved by their local officials are in their community’s best interest -whether they are willing to pay for those changes through increased property taxes and more strain on existing services.
This is just another scare tactic being thrown out to try and divert the attention away from the real issue which is why the current power structure is so afraid to let people have the final say on how their communities grow.
It’s just another threat, like the bogus Burt Harris clamims and is intended to intimidate people into voting against an amendment that will empower them.

]]> By: Alex http://blog.ozeanmedia.com/2010/05/hometown-democracy-the-political-consultant-relief-act-of-2010/#comment-540 Alex Tue, 01 Jun 2010 09:01:19 +0000 http://blog.ozeanmedia.com/?p=293#comment-540 George, it is clear you do not want to talk about the merits of any argument. Instead, you jump on any blog that does not agree with you and just start throwing out insults. I promise you that I can go insult for insult with you, but instead, I am just going to point out that you have offered nothing to argue against my point. It is most likely because you know I am right. Have a good day, and I look forward to your insults. George, it is clear you do not want to talk about the merits of any argument. Instead, you jump on any blog that does not agree with you and just start throwing out insults. I promise you that I can go insult for insult with you, but instead, I am just going to point out that you have offered nothing to argue against my point.

It is most likely because you know I am right. Have a good day, and I look forward to your insults.

]]> By: Jonas Williams http://blog.ozeanmedia.com/2010/05/hometown-democracy-the-political-consultant-relief-act-of-2010/#comment-539 Jonas Williams Mon, 31 May 2010 19:10:12 +0000 http://blog.ozeanmedia.com/?p=293#comment-539 Mr. Patton is absolutely correct. Hometown Democracy does ensure that nearly every development or growth issue goes before local voters, ensuring that special interest then get involved by creating PACs, hiring political consultants, etc. The process will become awash in special interest money. And, Jason is correct in that these important issues will get reduced to 30 second sound bites. The political process is already awash in sound bites and special interest money. Hometown Democracy does nothing but add more of that. Mr. Patton is absolutely correct. Hometown Democracy does ensure that nearly every development or growth issue goes before local voters, ensuring that special interest then get involved by creating PACs, hiring political consultants, etc. The process will become awash in special interest money.

And, Jason is correct in that these important issues will get reduced to 30 second sound bites.

The political process is already awash in sound bites and special interest money. Hometown Democracy does nothing but add more of that.

]]> By: George Niemann http://blog.ozeanmedia.com/2010/05/hometown-democracy-the-political-consultant-relief-act-of-2010/#comment-538 George Niemann Mon, 31 May 2010 16:52:49 +0000 http://blog.ozeanmedia.com/?p=293#comment-538 I think that Alex should re-name his blog to "Alex wants to fight everyone on a subject he feels passionate about". What kind of a blog is that???Usually what happens on a blog is that the writer puts their idea out there and then others comment. It's ususally not that the writer has to comment on what every commenter has to say. That can get very boring (even though it may boost the ego of the writer for a little while). I've never seen one like this where Alex is just sitting there waiting for the next comment to come in so he can go after it. Better yet, lets call this one, "Alex's Argu-Blog" The marketing slogan will be, "if you feel like arguing with a blogger, then log in and Argu-Blog. Alex, I hate to tell you this but I don't think this concept of Argu-Blogging is going to take off any time soon. I think that Alex should re-name his blog to “Alex wants to fight everyone on a subject he feels passionate about”. What kind of a blog is that???Usually what happens on a blog is that the writer puts their idea out there and then others comment. It’s ususally not that the writer has to comment on what every commenter has to say. That can get very boring (even though it may boost the ego of the writer for a little while). I’ve never seen one like this where Alex is just sitting there waiting for the next comment to come in so he can go after it.

Better yet, lets call this one, “Alex’s Argu-Blog”
The marketing slogan will be, “if you feel like arguing with a blogger, then log in and Argu-Blog.

Alex, I hate to tell you this but I don’t think this concept of Argu-Blogging is going to take off any time soon.

]]> By: Alex http://blog.ozeanmedia.com/2010/05/hometown-democracy-the-political-consultant-relief-act-of-2010/#comment-537 Alex Mon, 31 May 2010 16:50:11 +0000 http://blog.ozeanmedia.com/?p=293#comment-537 "We the People are taking our rightful place in Florida government." Awesome! I take checks or major credit cards. No cash please. “We the People are taking our rightful place in Florida government.”

Awesome! I take checks or major credit cards. No cash please.

]]> By: Jason http://blog.ozeanmedia.com/2010/05/hometown-democracy-the-political-consultant-relief-act-of-2010/#comment-535 Jason Mon, 31 May 2010 15:52:24 +0000 http://blog.ozeanmedia.com/?p=293#comment-535 Alex - This terrible flaw in Amendment 4 has been ignored in the media! Kudos to you for "uncovering" it. Amendment 4 is simply a stimulus package for campaign consultants. When confronted on this apparent flaw, Amendment 4 proponents simply regurgitate the same silly rhetoric being pumped out of their campaign. To Amendment 4 Supporters - Think about this one for a minute. Don't react emotionally, don't lapse into your Talking Points ... just think about it. Your measure requires a referenda on any change to a comprehensive plan. Each of these plan amendments will be condensed into 30-second TV commercials or 60-second radio spots. Special Interest groups on both sides of the issue will hire CAMPAIGN CONSULTANTS to sell their viewpoint to voters. It's that simple. The side-effect: those with the best campaign consultants and the deepest pockets are likely to prevail. - Jason Alex -

This terrible flaw in Amendment 4 has been ignored in the media! Kudos to you for “uncovering” it. Amendment 4 is simply a stimulus package for campaign consultants. When confronted on this apparent flaw, Amendment 4 proponents simply regurgitate the same silly rhetoric being pumped out of their campaign.

To Amendment 4 Supporters -

Think about this one for a minute. Don’t react emotionally, don’t lapse into your Talking Points … just think about it. Your measure requires a referenda on any change to a comprehensive plan. Each of these plan amendments will be condensed into 30-second TV commercials or 60-second radio spots. Special Interest groups on both sides of the issue will hire CAMPAIGN CONSULTANTS to sell their viewpoint to voters. It’s that simple. The side-effect: those with the best campaign consultants and the deepest pockets are likely to prevail.

- Jason

]]> By: Sandy Walters http://blog.ozeanmedia.com/2010/05/hometown-democracy-the-political-consultant-relief-act-of-2010/#comment-534 Sandy Walters Mon, 31 May 2010 15:31:13 +0000 http://blog.ozeanmedia.com/?p=293#comment-534 Well it takes all kinds doesn't it? We plan to give ourselves a seat at the table. Whether you like it or not. We the People are taking our rightful place in Florida government. Well it takes all kinds doesn’t it?
We plan to give ourselves a seat at the table. Whether you like it or not. We the People are taking our rightful place in Florida government.

]]> By: lynn-a http://blog.ozeanmedia.com/2010/05/hometown-democracy-the-political-consultant-relief-act-of-2010/#comment-532 lynn-a Mon, 31 May 2010 12:45:07 +0000 http://blog.ozeanmedia.com/?p=293#comment-532 Alex-I am very passionate about this Amendment. I have written over 200 blogs on the subject and why we need it. There are so many lies being dissiminated out there by the opponents who feel they have everything to lose by giving the vote back to the people rather than their elected officials. I understand where they are coming from. But this should be about the welfare of Florida, not greasing the palms of developers, etc. Look what they have done to our State? Even our State Panther is nearly extinct because of bad development and growth. As a long time resident of Florida, it really is time that the people have a say. We can do it better. We have over 100 million units already approved for development. Why can't developers ever be satisfied. Instead, they would rather asphalt and pave over our entire State. We don't want that and why would anyone? Getting a supermajority of this vote will be what's awesome. Alex-I am very passionate about this Amendment. I have written over 200 blogs on the subject and why we need it. There are so many lies being dissiminated out there by the opponents who feel they have everything to lose by giving the vote back to the people rather than their elected officials. I understand where they are coming from. But this should be about the welfare of Florida, not greasing the palms of developers, etc. Look what they have done to our State? Even our State Panther is nearly extinct because of bad development and growth. As a long time resident of Florida, it really is time that the people have a say. We can do it better. We have over 100 million units already approved for development. Why can’t developers ever be satisfied. Instead, they would rather asphalt and pave over our entire State. We don’t want that and why would anyone? Getting a supermajority of this vote will be what’s awesome.

]]> By: Alex http://blog.ozeanmedia.com/2010/05/hometown-democracy-the-political-consultant-relief-act-of-2010/#comment-531 Alex Mon, 31 May 2010 12:10:06 +0000 http://blog.ozeanmedia.com/?p=293#comment-531 Gwen, thank you for commenting and calling me a name. What you fail to understand or maybe you do understand, but you are just not acknowledging it, is that I will make money EITHER way. The developers will hire me OR some citizen's group will hire me to combat the developers OR another set of developers will hire me to combat the first set of developers. Anyway you cut this, your proposed amendment makes political consultants (the smucks that we are) silly rich. You should admit this as you wrap yourself in the do-gooder flag while attempting to ram this awful piece of public policy down Florida's throats. Amendment 4 will NOT stop greed, Amendment 4 promotes greed, and you know it. Again, if you win, political consultants around the state of Florida will rejoice and I will come back to this blog and thank each and every one of you. Gwen, thank you for commenting and calling me a name.

What you fail to understand or maybe you do understand, but you are just not acknowledging it, is that I will make money EITHER way.

The developers will hire me OR some citizen’s group will hire me to combat the developers OR another set of developers will hire me to combat the first set of developers.

Anyway you cut this, your proposed amendment makes political consultants (the smucks that we are) silly rich.

You should admit this as you wrap yourself in the do-gooder flag while attempting to ram this awful piece of public policy down Florida’s throats.

Amendment 4 will NOT stop greed, Amendment 4 promotes greed, and you know it. Again, if you win, political consultants around the state of Florida will rejoice and I will come back to this blog and thank each and every one of you.

]]> By: Gwen Hill http://blog.ozeanmedia.com/2010/05/hometown-democracy-the-political-consultant-relief-act-of-2010/#comment-530 Gwen Hill Mon, 31 May 2010 10:55:03 +0000 http://blog.ozeanmedia.com/?p=293#comment-530 Oh-and visit Lynn's blog above. She says it better than anyone on Amendment 4 Oh-and visit Lynn’s blog above. She says it better than anyone on Amendment 4

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